Electrodes in individual montage shifted to front and side

Hi everyone,

I have scanned the position of the EEG electrodes for each one of my participants but when implement the montage, I see that my electrodes are shifted to the front of the head model. I do not have the MRI of my participants. I have tried using a scaling factor of the position of my electrodes and changing the size of the head outline but without success. I haven’t been able to shift the electrodes to be in the correct position. Is there a way to fix this? I have input the position of the electrodes and also the fiducial points when implementing the montage in mne. I’m attaching the figure of the electrodes positions.
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  • MNE version: 1.7.1
  • operating system: Windows 11

What did you actually input in MNE? Values raw from your measurement device? Your measurement device likely measured the position of the fiducials and of the electrodes in a given coordinate frame and in a given unit. Now, it’s up to you to transform those 3D positions from the coordinate frame of the measurement device to the head coordinate frame, defined by the fiducials.

  • The X-axis goes from LPA (2) to RPA (1)
  • The Y-axis is orthogonal to the X-axis and goes through the nasion (NAS) (3)
  • The Z-axis forms the right-handed orthogonal system

And to convert the unit to meters.

Mathieu

Mathieu thank you for your answer.

I have transformed all my coordinates to m and I thought that by using mne.channels.make_dig_montage and imputing my coordinates and my lpa,rpa and nasion I wouldn’t need to transform my positions. If I do the transformation you were mentioning, when using mne.channels.make_dig_montage would I still need to input the fiducials?

Thanks

That’s a good point, maybe it should have done the transformation itself especially as I see a coord_frame argument defaulting to unknown for the native digitizer space… Let’s see what others have to say.