# LCMV on raw data

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Hi!

I hope my question is understandable...

If one applies lcmv beamformer on raw data continous data (50 minutes of  
registration) and chooses pick\_ori='max\_power', will the output be a  
spatial filter of the maximum power source at each time point? That is,  
will the spatial filter "move" across the cortex if the cortical source of  
maximal power changes?

Karin  
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Hi Karin,

pick\_ori=?max\_power? does not find the source point with maximum power, but for each source point, the \*orientation\* of maximum power. See this tutorial for more information about what I mean with the ?orientation? of a source:

[https://www.martinos.org/mne/stable/auto\_tutorials/plot\_dipole\_orientations.html](https://www.martinos.org/mne/stable/auto_tutorials/plot_dipole_orientations.html)

The LCMV beamformer, applied to continuous data, will for each time point create a full source estimate for all source points along the cortex. So yes, you?ll be able to see the location of maximum power ?move? along the cortex.

Hope that helps!

Marijn.

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> Hi!
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> I hope my question is understandable...
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> If one applies lcmv beamformer on raw data continous data (50 minutes of registration) and chooses pick\_ori='max\_power', will the output be a spatial filter of the maximum power source at each time point? That is, will the spatial filter "move" across the cortex if the cortical source of maximal power changes?
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Ok thank you. If one wanted to retrieve data from only one source (an  
epileptic source) how should you do? That is not only for epochs, but for  
continuous data?

Karin

2018-05-15 18:30 GMT+02:00 Marijn van Vliet \<w.m.vanvliet at gmail.com\>:

> Hi Karin,
> 
> pick\_ori=?max\_power? does not find the source point with maximum power,  
> but for each source point, the \*orientation\* of maximum power. See this  
> tutorial for more information about what I mean with the ?orientation? of a  
> source:
> 
> [https://www.martinos.org/mne/stable/auto\_tutorials/plot\_](https://www.martinos.org/mne/stable/auto_tutorials/plot_)  
> dipole\_orientations.html
> 
> The LCMV beamformer, applied to continuous data, will for each time point  
> create a full source estimate for all source points along the cortex. So  
> yes, you?ll be able to see the location of maximum power ?move? along the  
> cortex.
> 
> Hope that helps!
> 
> Marijn.
> 
> \>  
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> \> Hi!  
> \>  
> \> I hope my question is understandable...  
> \>  
> \> If one applies lcmv beamformer on raw data continous data (50 minutes of  
> registration) and chooses pick\_ori='max\_power', will the output be a  
> spatial filter of the maximum power source at each time point? That is,  
> will the spatial filter "move" across the cortex if the cortical source of  
> maximal power changes?  
> \>  
> \> Karin  
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Hi,

Anyone can help me to import .avg file from event related potential dataset  
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Would it work if you just picked the source with maximum power? (computed for a sliding window across time)

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> Ok thank you. If one wanted to retrieve data from only one source (an epileptic source) how should you do? That is not only for epochs, but for continuous data?
> 
> Karin
> 
> 2018-05-15 18:30 GMT+02:00 Marijn van Vliet \<w.m.vanvliet at gmail.com\>:  
> Hi Karin,
> 
> pick\_ori=?max\_power? does not find the source point with maximum power, but for each source point, the \*orientation\* of maximum power. See this tutorial for more information about what I mean with the ?orientation? of a source:
> 
> [https://www.martinos.org/mne/stable/auto\_tutorials/plot\_dipole\_orientations.html](https://www.martinos.org/mne/stable/auto_tutorials/plot_dipole_orientations.html)
> 
> The LCMV beamformer, applied to continuous data, will for each time point create a full source estimate for all source points along the cortex. So yes, you?ll be able to see the location of maximum power ?move? along the cortex.
> 
> Hope that helps!
> 
> Marijn.
> 
> \>  
> \> External Email - Use Caution  
> \>  
> \>  
> \> Hi!  
> \>  
> \> I hope my question is understandable...  
> \>  
> \> If one applies lcmv beamformer on raw data continous data (50 minutes of registration) and chooses pick\_ori='max\_power', will the output be a spatial filter of the maximum power source at each time point? That is, will the spatial filter "move" across the cortex if the cortical source of maximal power changes?  
> \>  
> \> Karin  
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But then the you would only pick the ?right? source when there were epileptic spikes? And not get the background activity in between spikes?  
Karin

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